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#1 wuffy

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 17:25 PM

This has probably been stated over and over again, but if you want to continue having conventions, then make the number of fans needed a very easy achievable number.  I haven't seen a successfull Convention in UK1 or NU1 in over 2 weeks and most of the Cons haven't even got to 50% of the goal.

 

Everyone is so frustrated with the non-stop FAILED Conventions, that no one even attempts them anymore.   Either tweak the totals to a realistic number or remove Conventions all together.  

 

 


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#2 paula

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 17:40 PM

Yeah what wuffy said . Or replace them with something else .

#3 Analis

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 20:16 PM

This is an issue on other servers as well, including even the German Playata-homebase servers.

If I'm not mistaken... I think a while ago they started cutting the lengths of the conventions in half.

You may have noticed we've only had convs of 30min, 1h, 1h30 lately...

But to me the required number of fans seems to have been left as it was.

And that's not viable.

 

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 21:15 PM

I don't think its the target being to high, I think its that no-one does them anymore.



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Posted 12 March 2018 - 21:53 PM

We have been seeing 5 and 6M visitors required for hour long conventions on NU1. That is higher than normal. 


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#6 Analis

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 22:06 PM

 

Es ist schon ziemlich kurios das die letzten Con`s ( DE1) alle in die Hose gingen ( zumindest jene,die ich mitbekommen habe ) Wenn man nicht will das wir geneigten Spieler an einer Con teilnehmen ....wieso schafft man das Feature nicht einfach still und leise ab, statt mit utopischen Auftritten aufzufahren ?

 

Sorry for the non-English.

Key to that quote is "utopischen Auftritten" - an utopian number of shows.

And this comes from the core server of BBE.

I'm still available to be corrected but this feels wrong.


Now that my char has been deleted...

I finally am just as relevant to UK2 as Maalena always has been.


#7 wuffy

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 22:11 PM

Minutes after I posted my rant, I was greeted with a Convention in NU1.  Convention was 90 minutes long for 9.8mil fans.   Number was so high, everyone in the studio laughed and didn't even bother with a click.  I believe it finished around 3mil fans. 

 

On a similar note, players get Dickstarter tasks for completing a "Successful" Convention.  For me, no matter the reward, it is an immediate re-roll.  I will not waste my time anymore on these useless Conventions.



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 06:09 AM

Here's my 2 cents about it.

 

I don't do conventions because there's little to no reward.

If they're outside temple even less so.

 

Top 10 is many times not achieveable, top show also kinda hard to get, So the sets regarding conventions are REALLY hard to get.

 

You could maybe add a "casual convention set", where all the pieces have a 1% chance to drop after every show. 30 items or so.

Just a bit of a push towards the shows, irrelevant to the result of the convention or to the other people's participation at them.


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#9 BigBadWolf

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:11 AM

The concept of the convention failing despite a players participation does nothing to encourage a player to participate in such an event again in the future, In fact the mentality has reached a point where players who would participate wait to see if any others are bothering to participate so no-one participates.

I think we need to address Conventions as a Game Mechanics failure and start looking at a replacement feature or event.



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:17 AM

Don't waste your time on conventions, they are for diamond players.


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Posted 13 March 2018 - 09:02 AM

I stopped doing conventions a long time ago. The only people who win are the diamond players. Since I'm not, there's no chance in me getting any of the better rewards. Also, I'm not able to sit around and click every 4 mins. 



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 23:25 PM

Don't waste your time on conventions, they are for diamond players.

Wrong... I'm a premium player (one who uses diamonds) and I won't even start these conventions with the inflated crowds needed for success


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#13 BigBadWolf

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 02:16 AM

Wrong... I'm a premium player (one who uses diamonds) and I won't even start these conventions with the inflated crowds needed for success

What Yibbies said +1



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Posted 14 March 2018 - 07:01 AM

I don't think its the target being to high, I think its that no-one does them anymore.

 

It's all about cause and effect. Playata sets the requirement too high, people don't participate, wasting an hour of their playing time for something destined to fail due to a too high requirements. i've seen 4.7, 5.3 million requirement for 1hr convention. Not burning my precious time on that.


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#15 Analis

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 07:03 AM

Perhaps it's due to the "minor changes" of last update...

But we finally have a realistic convention again.

1h for 503.000 visitors.

 

If it's been fixed now: thx devs!


Now that my char has been deleted...

I finally am just as relevant to UK2 as Maalena always has been.


#16 mzharmony

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 07:11 AM

ewwwww.. conventions.. they suck.. that is all :)


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 12:21 PM

I think the conventions do adjust, automatically. Failures tend to cause lower numbers, successes seem to generate higher numbers. That is why after convention temples, for a week or so, the conventions have unrealistically high numbers again.

 

Perhaps when they reset the numbers due to program changes, the developers could START by making the numbers initially very easy, rather than unrealistically hard. The adjustment mechanism will kick in, and eventually the conventions will be a challenge -- but in the meantime, fewer people will have made a vow to never ever do a convention again...

 

In other words, maybe they should prime the pump instead of bar the door.


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 13:50 PM

I think it's just that when you miss the convention by a couple of minutes you have zero chance of ending it as non-failure.

In a convention of 1 hour theoretically you should be able to do 15 shows, but that is without response times; so 14 is the max.

However when you are only able to do 13 shows it's a failure already.

So please game designers, set this number a little lower so more conventions end as a success (and I'm not talking about winning first price).

 

Thanks in advance, Marja.



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Posted 14 March 2018 - 14:01 PM

I think it's just that when you miss the convention by a couple of minutes you have zero chance of ending it as non-failure.

In a convention of 1 hour theoretically you should be able to do 15 shows, but that is without response times; so 14 is the max.

However when you are only able to do 13 shows it's a failure already.

So please game designers, set this number a little lower so more conventions end as a success (and I'm not talking about winning first price).

The (normal) conventions are fairly easy to do, if you've prepared your studio with the time boost, which trims time off ALL missions.. One of the main reasons I keep my studio's boosts active from week to week


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#20 Analis

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 16:40 PM

One of the main reasons I keep my studio's boosts active from week to week

 

Which we love you for.

Now get off of your lazy forum-ing ass and go duel some.

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