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[Jada]

I would like to suggest that with the fights, members who are level 100+ cannot attack players over 50 levels below them, this is pointless and bullying behaviour, why on earth would someone of that level attack someone so small? Its not as if they get much in the way of glory so why bother?

 

I mention this because its happening to my team, some idiot of level 111 thinks its funny to attack others in my studio in their level 50's. If he cannot take on people around his own level then it suggests cowardly behaviour, I would not want this type of player in my studio as it gives a bad impression. So in the next update, can this be addressed please? 

[jancan]

that would be nice i get hit form 280 and over 300 all the time for 7 points so this will not change just part of the game if you like send me a name i will be happy to have a member of studio hit him for you . have a fun day and enjoy the game .

[CaptC]

This is usually just the way the game works. Some players only use their challenge screen, and as a result get random opponents who may or may not be good matches.

 

I have a few dueling buddies, we do some friendly trash talking when we duel each other. But for the most part, duels don't stay even in this game. One player will tend to get better faster than the other, and then it is all one-sided. 

 

My advice:

 

1) If you aren't actually being bullied, don't take it personally. The vast majority of the time, someone is just trying to get more duel epics to sell.

 

I don't even duel for glory. And I literally don't have enough opponents that give me more than 20 glory. If I want to use all my courage in a day, I have to take 'bullying' duels for tiny amounts of glory. (That is almost certainly not the case of a level 111, though.) I want the duel epics, and the notes they produce, and the skills they buy.

 

2) Have you tried politely asking the player to stop? By politely, I mean just that. You are, after all, asking for a favor. Keep in mind that *demanding* that  someone quit hitting you is quite often counterproductive.

 

Personally, I have had people threaten me, say they will hit my friends if I don't leave them alone. I don't go out of my way, but those players ARE still on my hit list. On the other hand, I have 7 or 8 players who asked me to stop, quite politely, and I skip over them without a second thought. Even if someone is on my hit list, though, I try to be aware. If someone is getting close to an achievement (like 300K glory), I leave them alone until they get there.

 

3) If you ARE being bullied, actually being harassed, submit a ticket with the name of the bully. Someone dueling you, then taunting you, sending bullying messages, demanding something in exchange for stopping the duels? I know for a fact that harassers are dealt with. Don't put up with that kind of crap.

 

4) And the last and best answer: Get better. It can be quite satisfying, turning the tables on a player who has been farming you for a while. Just try to keep it civil... don't turn into a bully yourself.

 

[Jada]

I have been trying to get better, I play daily, but this 111 seems to target me and other members of my studio, I don't feel this is coincidental, I have asked him to stop, but he ignores and tells me and my other members who have asked to 'stop crying' he is basically very rude. It is ruining the game having someone like him constantly hitting us, He goes under the tag <redacted> my studio is over 100 places below them 

[ArielPiperFawn]

We get it a lot, sadly, it is very annoying, and does spoil some fun to the game. As a member of the same studio as Jada, I agree with her feelings on this matter.

[BigBadWolf]

I think personally, the key to enjoying the game is to just ignore the fact that someone has hit you at all.

As you get higher in the rankings - You will get attacked, daily, 3 times a day and sometimes (if you innocently steal a studios player into yours) its by a whole studio every day

If you win the fights you have, you'll still go up in rank. If you have good refines, you'll occasionally beat the ones who attack you

its a part of the game, and rank truly means nothing in this game until you choose to make it a part of your game.

focus on the parts you enjoy in the game and don't let the parts that you don't enjoy detract from that.

[CaptC]

On both servers I play on, I am attacked daily by the top ranked player. I lose 20 to 30 glory each time, and have zero chance of winning those fights. One of those players is a duel buddy.... I send her notes about how I am getting closer from time to time, or commenting that they were earlier or later than normal. Normal trash talk, in other words.

 

The other person is... not a friend. *shrug*

 

Both have the same effect on my enjoyment of the game. I am there to enjoy the people in my studio, and to make myself and my studio mates the best players we can be. A few duels are barely noticed.

[CaptC]

Last thing I will add: My studio is very competitive. We duel constantly. I tell all my players to not take a duel unless they expect to win. Courage is a finite resource, and wasting it on 'honorable' fights that you lose is ... just a waste. 

 

The exception to that, is that I ask my studio to be good citizens of the server. I ask my players not to annoy those who politely ask them to stop. As the studio boss, if I am approached by someone about one of my players, I will ask the player if they have a reason to hit that person, and if not, to please stop. 

 

Are you on good terms with the boss of Paperdoll Lounge? Perhaps they can intercede for you. (Being polite is strongly suggested if you attempt that.)

 

And I assure you, as you go up in levels, being dueled by stronger players will become less and less important to you. Not because there are fewer people able to beat you... but because you will realize you have to play the bully role yourself, if you are going to effectively use up your courage.

 

It's not worth taking it personally, or being upset by it.

[Anjelika]

Sveiki CaptC 

I think perhaps, Ariel has messaged the team boss, but with regret she did not reply

[CaitlinCumgusher]

I was just looking into this a little, the studio that is having players getting attacked over and over has a film trophy in thier possession, and higher ranked studios cannot attack a studio that is much weaker then them, so it may be out of animosity that they are attacking individuals in the studio about that, that is my 10 cents worth anyway

[Anjelika]

I was just looking into this a little, the studio that is having players getting attacked over and over has a film trophy in thier possession, and higher ranked studios cannot attack a studio that is much weaker then them, so it may be out of animosity that they are attacking individuals in the studio about that, that is my 10 cents worth anyway

Lol, I was unaware we had got that trophy

[Analis]

Lol, I was unaware we had got that trophy

 

While you are undoubtedly a lovely little minx...

I'd find thàt to be reason enough to slap you myself.

 

ESPECIALLY if you'd be in my studio...

 

Kidding aside. Seconding CaptC here...

This is after all a battle game disguised in a porn outfit.

You get slapped, you outgrow the slappage and return the favor.

Every hit you get is a reason not to want to get hit anymore and grow to get better.

Take it from someone who has 45.955/46.783 duel victories.

Without those 828 defeats I wouldn't be where I am now.

 

And if the fighting part isn't your thing...

Well then it isn't and you ought to have it easy to ignore other people fighting you.

[CaptC]

I don't care if my players know what trophies we have, as long as they are wearing their pornstar sticker ring during the studio fights, and hitting their weekly activity requirement. How they get to the weekly requirement is up to them.

 

[Belwar]

We are very sorry about this situation. We are so new on this server and i just checked game forum. Will be more careful in future...
If they want i can drop off my all clothes and missiles and then all SexArt players can attack me.maybe it will be a solution for them

[Analis]

If they want i can drop off my all clothes and missiles and then all SexArt players can attack me.maybe it will be a solution for them

 

Is it ok if the rest of us watches?

[ArielPiperFawn]

I don't mind the fighting aspect, it can be fun, but having a now level 118, attack players that have stats over 2000 less than him and have absolute zero chance of winning- how is that productive? Or fair? I am very grateful that Belwar has taken time to address this and speak to the player in question. On behalf of all players concerned I hope the issue will now cease, but I think it is certainly something the game developers should look at.

[BigBadWolf]

I find occasionally getting hit by level 350+ players as their way of acknowledging my idiocy of expenditure in a convention can be somewhat entertaining...

Its used as a way of getting someones attention without having to bother typing occasionally too...

although, either of these examples are really someone to lazy to use a messaging system that is already in game

 

The game limits the studio targets by rank/glory for studio fights - perhaps a similar system for players would be advantageous to consider

[Sapphira]

<redacted> is not listening- I think now the developers need to step in now, as Ariel said, with stats 2000 plus to mine, how can someone like me or any of my team beat someone like that?? Its impossible!! Everyday for a week this 'thug' is attacking me,ruins the fun of the game with idiots like him playing

Edited by CaptC, 16 February 2018 - 22:40 PM.
Removed player name

[CaptC]

You are asking the developers to implement "fairness" within this fighting game. (I also daresay you want a solution that prevents a single specific player from attacking you. I will limit my comments to general cases, and trust you understand why I will not analyze your specific case.)

 

Remember there is already a leveling mechanism in place. The glory rewards, and the diamond and equipment rewards for winning the duel, are smaller if there is a glory or skill difference between the players. (If someone is hitting you instead of a more lucrative target, somehow the fight has become personal. That is not a question of fairness, and players are already limited to three attacks per day against another player.)

 

If I was a developer, given the task you propose, I would ask you to define fairness.

 

When you come up with your definition, please note: I would not be a fan of static limits on differences in level or skills totals. What are you going to do if a bully is within any particular arbitrary range? Must the developers tighten the ranges until you feel comfortable again? Who's range do we pick? And I suspect any range no one will object to, will be so broad as to not really address many situations. A level 300 is not going to find reason to attack a level 10 very often.

 

If you want to define fairness as "both players have a chance to win", then you are asking a very complicated question. It is too inter-related. I regularly beat players 60 or 70 levels higher than me, some with thousands more skill points. I regularly lose to players that I did not think had any chance at all to beat me, where I have thousands of more skill points than them. Who beats who is very difficult to quantify, considering factors like each player's refinements, skills totals, number and quality of missiles, and how their skills are arranged.

 

(Don't suggest Monte Carlo simulations at me... who is seriously going to run enough trials to determine if a fight is fair, each and every time the games wants to present the 'attack' button?)

 

Plus, relative strengths change all the time as people change equipment for different purposes. If I equip a strength set for a movie, should I be immune from challenge? I find it annoying that some people seem to watch for when I do that, and only attack when I deliberately weaken myself for other parts of the game... but I don't consider it "unfair". How would the game be supposed to detect that, anyway? Plus compensation mechanics already exist: For every time they attack me while I am weakened, I can dress and counter-attack.

 

Given all that, if I was a developer tasked to implement fairness? I would throw up my hands and say, "Fairest thing is to do what we are already doing. Everyone can fight everyone, but the rewards are diminished based upon glory differences, and the gains are increased if you take on people with more skills than you."

[Analis]

Its not as if they get much in the way of glory so why bother?

 

And why exactly bother giving it the attention it's getting?

 

<redacted> is not listening- I think now the developers need to step in now

 

It was his right not to listen to you and just play his own game.

Just as much as that is your right.

 

When you girls joined the game (and definitely when you chose your usernames), you became certified pornstars. So... Do your job. Just suck it up. Swallow it and drink some water. But let's not call people bullies when they just play the game the way it is made. Belwar, who replied above, went out of his way trying to fix this situation. Only yesterday he happily sent me "i think i solved jada- <redacted> problem. thanks for your help. my profit on this case, i met some Czech girls". And today I see he and <redacted> deleted their accounts. So I have to wonder... Who exactly is the bully here? The ones who play the game as it is and has been for over a year, or the ones who feel the need to ask the devs to alter the game because it bothers them to lose insignificant amounts of glory? And in the process make people leave the game?