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#1 CaitlinCumgusher

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Posted 24 November 2017 - 11:54 AM

Someone in my studio asked me about trophy refinements recently, and to be honest I did not have a clue to the answer, I searched the forums but could not find it explained that i could even understand, so I sent a message to a friend in the game who is a long term member, and she explained it really well for me, she has given me permission to share this, as I thought it may help others as well.

 

This is not my writing from here, this is what I am sharing

 

So...
There are 3 kinds of trophies.

1. Courage makes your dueling waiting times shorter. If you only attack when your "fist" is completely filled, it also makes the number of hits higher that you can make with such a full "fist". The penalty for one C trophy is 7%.
2. Energy gives you 20 extra energy. The E penalty is 10%.
3. Film gives you 1 extra film. The F penalty is 20%.

These penalty %s work like this.
If your team has 1C your personal stats during a studio fight (and only then) become only 93% of your REAL stats. With 1E those stats become 90%. With 1F those stats are 80%. If you are in Bros & Hoes and you have FEECC, those stats in a studio fight become 46%. So all of my people would normally only fight with 46% of our REAL stats.

This is of course huge.
The only thing you can do to counter such a serious penalty is by wearing a "trophy ring" or pornstar stickered ring as it's officially called. You can see one on me or everyone else in my studio during fights. These rings can bring the penalty down with up to 30%. This means: if you fight with for instance 1 E trophy, that should be a penalty of 10%. A 30% ring however brings that penalty down to 70% of 10%, which is 7%. So you fight with 93% of your stats instead of just 90%.

If this seems little... it's not. When you have a 54% penalty like we do, and you wear a 30% ring, that makes you fight with only a 37.8% penalty. I can guarantee you that makes a serious difference.


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Posted 24 November 2017 - 14:22 PM

Indeed... We at Bros & Hoes strive for the best ring coverage we can get, since we're pretty heavily penalized


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Posted 24 November 2017 - 23:22 PM

You have no idea how helpful this post is!  I have a further question...

 

How many trophies are in play, at any give time? 

 

Are trophies limited to the top ten, or do you proivde a few for each tier?

 

It would be interesting if there were at least a few trophies that were available within every 50-100 rated studios.  Studios could graduate out of that tier group, but the trophies would remain.



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Posted 25 November 2017 - 00:54 AM

There are 10 of each trophy, I believe. Trophies are limited to whomever can hold them.

 

Trophy slots open up at particular upgrade levels. Studios can only hold as many trophies as the number of slots available. I got no idea what level of upgrade opens which trophy slots anymore. Mostly academic anyway. But... the fifth and last trophy slot opens up at 100% studio upgrade.

 

Some studios will upgrade to 99%, and deliberately refuse to go to 100%. So the studio gets 99% of the advantages of studio upgrades - but they don't open the last trophy slot. That means they cannot be forced to take a fifth trophy, which results in a combat advantage in studio fights at the very top levels.

 

This "four trophy strategy" was a popular technique on several servers, when the only trophies were energy and courage trophies, before duel epics, and when all trophies cost a uniform 10% skills penalty. Frankly, the energy and courage trophies weren't all that, so you could forgo one for the 10% fight advantage pretty easily.

 

But now, courage trophies with duel epics, and movie trophies, are SO valuable, that I question if the four trophy strategy is actually effective anymore. My Nutaku studio was 98% upgraded for 20 months - but we recently upgraded all the way so we could hold more movie trophies.

 

But make sure you know you want to do it before you go to 100% upgrade. This is an irreversible decision.


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Posted 25 November 2017 - 00:58 AM

Indeed... We at Bros & Hoes strive for the best ring coverage we can get, since we're pretty heavily penalized

 

We run near 50% penalty on my UK1 server, somewhere between 65% and 80% on NU1.

 

I run a daily 'sticker patrol' report. If you don't have at least a 20% sticker for a fight, your name will show up on the daily walk of shame. That's how important ring discipline is at those kind of penalty levels. 


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Posted 26 November 2017 - 12:30 PM

We run near 50% penalty on my UK1 server, somewhere between 65% and 80% on NU1.

 

I run a daily 'sticker patrol' report. If you don't have at least a 20% sticker for a fight, your name will show up on the daily walk of shame. That's how important ring discipline is at those kind of penalty levels. 

 

I am totally understanding to that. Over at B&H indeed I run a sticker patrol too. Have to at least wear the ring. But would love to see a minimum of 20%. But for now not needed yet. But definitely, without a stickered ring, the contribution in a fight is close to 0 at those levels.


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