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#1 wuffy

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 20:19 PM

I believe the collection temples need a better point system.  1 point per item collected does not allow for almost any studio to hit the 3,000 point goal.  My studio has multiple energy trophies, very active members and we've been using up a bunch of energy vouchers yet are still barely on pace for 3,000 ever though we leading the temple.   Other temples have totals in the millions surpassing 3,000 in the 1st hour.   A little common sense is required when setting up these temples.  Please make the coins, pandas or whatever worth at least 5 points.


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Posted 22 July 2017 - 20:33 PM

I think this is quite reasonable. If you are going to have an achievement for gaining a certain number of points in a temple, it should be possible to score that many points in almost any temple.


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Posted 23 July 2017 - 15:57 PM

Why do you need to hit 3000 points? To complete some of the successes that are based around Temple results? In that case, you can ignore that threshold, because it's only some incorrect leftover from the past, I think. The new threshold that counts is 100 points. ;)

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 16:45 PM

No, there is an achievement for players, basically "be part of a studio that scores 3000 points in temple a certain number of times".

 

If even the most active studios struggle to gain 3000 points during a particular temples, that achievement gets much harder.  Wuffy is merely suggesting that the bar should not be so high. Temples are server wide competitions and achieving 3000 points per temple should be possible for all reasonably active studios.


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Posted 23 July 2017 - 16:56 PM

Nice catch Wuffy...

 

The 3K threshold was done away with in Nov 2016, when Temple Challenge was still fairly new (after Week 6).  Some studios were busting their butts to reach it on some of the "lesser point per" events.  For example, during Week 3 - Convention Showings, (still most players least favorite Temple Challenge event) only 13 studios reached threshold that week, where the last studio to qualify got 3 studio diamonds.  Wow, thanks for playing!

 

Even though the top studio that week got well over 200 studio diamonds (I'm certain they spent more than that achieving that victory), that's when I figured all 13 studios would have been better off donating their diamonds to their studio, rather than play them in the ill-fated Temple Convention events.

 

Since then, the 3K language is probably still built in to the "Success" threshold - AND - that may still be by design - OR - it could also be an oversight and remedied by making the point totals scale to what was once a 3K threshold (on these lesser points per event, 1 point for Rare Coins, Silk Sheets, etc) as you have suggested, or it could be remedied  by reducing the Success counter to match the new 100 point threshold.

 

Thanks for your contribution...

 

 

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 16:57 PM

No, there is an achievement for players, basically "be part of a studio that scores 3000 points in temple a certain number of times".

If even the most active studios struggle to gain 3000 points during a particular temples, that achievement gets much harder. Wuffy is merely suggesting that the bar should not be so high. Temples are server wide competitions and achieving 3000 points per temple should be possible for all reasonably active studios.


I know about those achievements (I mentioned it in my previous post), but it seems to me that I always get a notch for every week, regardless if we reach the 3000 points threshold or not (we always reach the 100 points that you need to be classified). I know that the BBAs had a different shape in the past, so it makes sense for the Temple threshold to change during some game upgrade too and the in-game text to not reflect it, even though the mechanics of the game itself do reflect it.

Edit: Yeah, Tara already explained it comprehensively... :)

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 17:01 PM

I don't pay close enough attention to that particular achievement to know, Amberson.  It is possible they changed the criteria without changing the text.  Perhaps you know better than me, here - I just took the text as written as being accurate, and it still says 3000 points are needed.


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Posted 23 July 2017 - 17:23 PM

I know about those achievements (I mentioned it in my previous post), but it seems to me that I always get a notch for every week, regardless if we reach the 3000 points threshold or not (we always reach the 100 points that you need to be classified). I know that the BBAs had a different shape in the past, so it makes sense for the Temple threshold to change during some game upgrade too and the in-game text to not reflect it, even though the mechanics of the game itself do reflect it.

Edit: Yeah, Tara already explained it comprehensively... :)

 

 

That's some good insight Amberson...

 

I didn't realize the Success counter was being granted for the 100 point threshold.  Good to know!   ;)

 

 

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 22:40 PM

I'm mostly talking about the "Over 3000 (3K)" success of which you can only get 1 notch towards the total every week.  I don't see any reason why any studio finishing the top 20, never mind the top 10 for a temple should not achieve this goal for its members every week.



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Posted 24 July 2017 - 00:43 AM

I'm mostly talking about the "Over 3000 (3K)" success of which you can only get 1 notch towards the total every week.  I don't see any reason why any studio finishing the top 20, never mind the top 10 for a temple should not achieve this goal for its members every week.

 

Hey Wuffy,

 

I'm pretty sure that Amberson was saying anyone that reaches the 100 point threshold in a studio gets credit for the 3K threshold Success count, despite the incorrect language left behind in the older requirement.

 

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